Monday 15 October 2007

Unlikely Bed-fellows and Tolerance Today


In an interesting paper D.A. Carson suggests that Science and Christianity are rapidly finding themselves with unlikely bed-fellows... each other! I would like to pluck a handful of interesting insights from the article, in particular relating to the topic of 'tolerance'.

"It used to be that tolerance was the virtue of the person who held strong views about something or other, but who insisted that those who disagreed had an equal right to defend their views – the sort of stance picked up in the slogan, 'I may detest your opinions, but I shall defend to the death your right to speak them.' Today, however, tolerance is the virtue of the person who holds no strong views, except for the strongly held view that it is wrong to hold strong views, or to indicate that someone else might be wrong." - D.A. Carson, 'Maintaining Scientific and Christian Truths in a Postmodern World.'

This is an outrageously insightful observation of postmodernism. The only 'sin' in today's western culture is almost certainly the suggestion that another person is 'wrong'. As Carson supports later in the article;

"In the domain of evangelism, not least university evangelism, the hardest thing to get across these days is the notion of sin. To talk about sin is to say that certain behaviour and attitudes and beliefs are wrong, and that is the one thing postmodernism does not permit us to do. The one heresy postmodernism condemns is the belief that there is heresy; the one immoral act is the articulation of the view that there are immoral acts. But unless people adopt biblical views on sin, transgression, rebellion, trespass, guilt, and shame, it is virtually impossible to articulate faithfully the good news of Jesus Christ. If we cannot agree on what the problem is, we most certainly cannot agree on what the solution is." - D.A. Carson, 'Maintaining Scientific and Christian Truths in a Postmodern World.'

This is one of the primary reasons that I am dedicated to preaching God as both full of wrath and love. If we do not accept what more reformed thinkers would call 'our total depravity' we cannot understand why God should justly destroy us. And without an understanding of our deserved fate we cannot be stuck as deeply by the beauty of the Grace described in the Gospel that we must proclaim as truth.

"Christians who have prematurely declared victory over modernity are in for a cruel disillusionment. . . . It is true that modernism was openly hostile to religion and that postmodernism is much more sympathetic on the surface. But it is naive to ignore the price tag. Postmodern openness allows all religions and beliefs to present and practise their claims. But it demands the relinquishing of any claims to unique, absolute, and transcendent truth. For the Christian the cost is too high." - Os Guinness, 'Fit Bodies, Fat Minds: Why Evangelicals Don’t Think and What To Do About It'

It certainly can be exciting for a Christian when they are amazed they are allowed the freedom to 'evangelize' his or her friends and family in this 'postmodern' west. This excitement is often eclipsed by hopelessness as said Christian slowly comes to the realization that their friend listened to everything they said and decided to put it on the shelf alongside all of the other 'truths' they heard that day. We must be at the table. However, we must not drop our claim to THE Truth for the sake of being invited back to a table of 'people [that] will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths' (2 Tim 4:3-4, ESV).

"It is a great help to acknowledge that no truth which human beings may articulate can ever be articulated in a culture -transcending way – but that does not mean that the truth thus articulated does not transcend culture. This point is extraordinarily important, and often overlooked. If we articulate a truth in English, since all language is a cultural artifact our articulation of the the truth is culturally constrained. But that does not mean that the same truth cannot be articulated in another culture, often in another way." - D.A. Carson, 'Maintaining Scientific and Christian Truths in a Postmodern World.'

What a quotation. Does this not demand of today's Church the necessity of a missional mindset? We may have an excellent grasp of THE Truth; but without an understanding of our cultures this Truth lies in the hands of the comfortables, in the words of Christianese, and in the walls of our clinical sanctuaries.

The full article by Carson can be found here

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Interesting stuff Dave, It really is a challenge to grapple with postmodernist mission fields and absolute truth, the only problem is that I dont see postmodernism going away, so I guess the challenge is to know the culture well enough to communicate the truth so it will be heard.

Congrats by the way if you havent picked up any of my comments littered onyour flickr or email. Hope your enjoying Canada, seems like you are. Im off snowboarding in December in the Alps, cant wait.

Blessings Bro.

Liam

Dave said...

Hey Liam, thanks for the congratulations. I appreciate it. Yes, I'm loving it here.

As for the 'problem' that postmodernism doesn't look like leaving too soon. I don't think that that is a problem. It's just a different set of challenges. But to be honest, there is a distinct difference between cultures between the Pacific North West and the North East of Scotland. From my observation we are much closer to a 'post-post-modernism' than most Scots are. Not among everybody, but among some, is a real dissatisfaction with post-moderism's relativism and pluralism and those people are much more interested in seeking THE Truth.

This is most visibly seen in the interesting dichotomy in emerging church at the moment between the 'New Calvinists' and the 'Emergents' (labels are necessary, I don't intend to offend anyone, personally I don't like the term 'New Calvinist' as I'm not a five pointer, anyways...). In North America, the Pacific North West especially, theologies of the reformers and puritans have never been more popular. This is interesting as this theology it, in the least, offensive to post-moderns, and at most, 'intolerant'.

Iain said...

Dave mate, good thoughts.

We were discussing (we being a small crew of 'developing leaders') culture last night, and thinking about the antidote to what our culture and world-view presents us with. I believe it to be the gospel, but the gospel as evident in spirit-filled living-out of that truth. Dare I say it, the gospel is empty rhetoric when you look inside many churches. People still struggle big time with sin, sin patterns are merely hidden by religion, not being overcome by God's power. Ah gosh, I could schpeel so much, but I was really just wanting to leave a comment to say cheers for the post, relevant and a thinker. Keep it up!

Bless ya

-Iain

Anonymous said...

Interesting post Dave. Been so much being discussed on this issue. Just spent the summer reading a book on religion and science with my church cell, and found myself getting really quite irritated.

Also, how to explain my beliefs and reason to friends absorbed so deeply in post modern attitudes and values...?

Hope all is well in Canada.

Anonymous said...

Less religion, more helping the poor, it's all about the poor and the suffering and we get so caught up in our countries debating verses and different things etc, Jesus came to bring the gospel to the poor, there are thousands of kids dying everyday as they have no water or food, if the church really want to do what they were meant to do then they need to help those poor throughout the world, stop talking and start acting

Dave said...

Thanks Laura Anne.

Anon: I find it difficult to resonate with your understanding of the Gospel because Christ Himself calls us to reach EVERYBODY,

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." - Jesus, Matthew 28:18-20.

To be honest I'm sick of the 'our mission is to help the poor rhetoric (and it is 'rhetoric', there's A LOT OF TALKING from those guys too). Yes, God calls us to love the poor! Of course He does! I know, I know, 2100 verses in the bible about poverty, etc... we all know the statistics. We are to reach 'ALL NATIONS'. We're to reach all people. Of course we're to reach the poor, but we're also to bring the Good News to the upper and middle classes too. And that's simply not very fashionable.

I personally am called to a rich nation. How unsexy is THAT these days?! If God had sent me to Africa or Asia I would have no problem getting support, but because I'm called to people that have food, clothing and shelter the mission of reaching them with the Gospel just doesn't seem worth supporting?!

We are not simply called to love the poor. We are called to glorifying God by being OBEDIENT to the mission He has called us on. As the body of Christ we're called to different missions! You can be a financially comfortable lawyer for the glory of God. You can be a nun helping the poor for the glory of God. You can be a sports star for the glory of God. The important thing is to discern what it is that God is asking you to glorify Him with.

It is NOT 'all about the poor and the suffering' unless you are talking about Spiritual poverty and suffering, i.e. beign held apart from our Creator and Sustainer. It's about glorifying Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour by being faithful and obedient to His call upon our lives. And those look different.

'if the church really want to do what they were meant to do...' love Jesus. Obey Him.

Anonymous said...

Well said Dave. I'm finding that particularly challenging at the moment as I'm a member of a church in one of the wealthiest areas of Edinburgh, and we feel very called to reach out to our community and our city - the rich and the poor and those who are socially isolated. And that works in different ways.

There is much more poverty that is now more and more dispersed in the name of 'urban regeneration' in the rich world than people realise.

However, I do 'Anon' agree that the science/religion debate pales into significance in that we are called to disciple all nations, to bring good news to the poor etc etc.

I recently heard a speaker put it fairly well - in that he said people argue about Genesis - is it 7 days literally, is it poetry, is it a metaphor etc etc etc but how long it took God to create the world is not the point - it's the fact that he created it and it was good, but humans decided to disobey, and therefore sin came into the world...that's the point in the creation story.

Does it really matter in the great grand scheme of things HOW exactly God made the world??

(Did I mention that I have an Honours degree in Science, and yet still I'm saying this)

Dave said...

I absolutely agree with you Laura Anne that those kinds of issues can tie us down and leave us struggling to be effective as missionaries.

"Ok, I conceed that I'm going to have to become more knowledgable on the whole Creation/Evolution/Old Earth/New Earth... deal. I don't want to. I'm sickened by how insignificant the argument seems in relation to salvation. It seems like a bit of a leftover from the evangelical Christendom North America suffered under for the past few decades. That's why I'm confused as to why some of the more 'emerging' people I know still get so worked up over it (I'm not emerging, but it seems to be an example of everything they hate so I don't understand why they're still determined to have non-Christians accept what they believe). Today in staff meeting a counsellor spoke of a kid who stopped talking altogether because he believed in evolution and knew the counsellor believed in creation. This is an issue that is stopping Christians from sharing the GOSPEL in this culture. This is probably worth a blog too." - My own words, It's Been A While! Time For An Update!

However, the reason that I will not agree with the kind of attitude 'Anon' has shown is that it's becoming a false gospel. I acknowledge that as part of the Gospel we are to love the poor as the body of Christ, but that is not THE Gospel. I will not respond to Anon's comment again however. The issue was not 'helping the poor', it was 'tolerance' in a post-modern world.

Anonymous said...

What is becoming a false gospel do you think?